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A brief pause in the last cram-session:

The mini-talkshow excerpt-style campaign commercials being made by the Conservative party are now officially the most condescendingly offensive shite that I've suffered since hitting voting-age. How the hell can someone this fond of missing-the-point politics be the head of a political party?!

More Reasons I May Have to Flee the Country:
He says of the Liberal federal daycare initiative, which only pays for government daycare: "They're your children. Shouldn't you decide how to raise them?"

Um. Well. Actually, no. Not entirely. And if we're going to get really terribly capitalist about it, why the hell should the state pay for anything if they don't get a say in things? We don't have a republic, you stupid asshole. We have a constitutional monarchy. Which amongst other things means that everyone is expected to abide by a minimum of common behaviours and common principle. Like teaching kids to read and write in preschool years (as proposed by the federal daycare people), and, hey, social indoctrination like "don't hit strangers" and "don't be a racist bigoted asshat" and "don't eat paste." These are not scary invasive concepts. If they are, why the hell are any of these people supposedly complaining about a universal daycare initiative living in Canada? "Play well with others" is kind of a national identifier. Moron.

Furthermore:






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I AM JUST SAYING.

Studying. Right.

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sunkistfriend
Dec. 14th, 2005 03:24 am (UTC)
*snickers in the corner*
hex_16
Dec. 14th, 2005 03:37 am (UTC)
Speaking as an American...
How you guys up North decide to run things is your business entirely. However, since similar things have proposed in the US, I thought I'd comment.

And if we're going to get really terribly capitalist about it, why the hell should the state pay for anything if they don't get a say in things?


Actually, I think a more appropriate question is, "Why the hell should the state pay for anything." In reality, you're paying. Keep in mind, that money the government keeps taking for taxes is yours. I think it's entirely appropriate to question:


  1. Whether the money isn't better spent on primary governmental responsibilities.

  2. Whether the cold, impersonal government agencies that have to deal with all the children in daycare will do what the parents deem to be an appropriate job.



Short of raising children to pursue a life of crime, parents have the right to raise their own children as they see fit. The government has no business telling people what to think, especially the most impressionable. That way lies Socialism.
chandri
Dec. 14th, 2005 03:55 am (UTC)
Re: Speaking as an American...
The government has no business telling people what to think, especially the most impressionable. That way lies Socialism.

The whole point of allying yourself with a government, calling yourself a citizen of a nation, is to associate yourself with people and structures that think the way you like. If you don't want to think the way your system thinks, then you can remove yourself from the system. That's what nationality means. A degree of ideological conformity. If you don't want to raise your kids to be responsible to those ideologies, I don't know why you would move here, or have kids here, or tie yourself to the system (or accept the advantages of the system) that professes those ideologies. I know "socialism" is a bad word in the U.S., but Canada is a socialist democracy, or at least the closest to a socialist democracy that exists. So, yeah. The government *does* get to tell people what to think, to a certain degree, or *should*. "Teach your kids to read and don't raise them to be bigoted assholes" is not brainwashing - it's cultural conditioning. And without that, I don't see the point in any country.
pollymel
Dec. 14th, 2005 04:39 am (UTC)
Re: Speaking as an American...
Speaking as another socialist-democracy-constitutional-monarchy-treehugging-pinko-commie-greenie....

My question would also be, I think one of the key differences here is in what is considered primary governmental responsibilities. I consider education to be one of those.

I'm not going to comment on the childcare thing at least partially because I am not sure what the situation is.
pollymel
Dec. 14th, 2005 04:42 am (UTC)
Re: Speaking as an American...
Although, I do expect people to figure out how to raise their own children and if that is "Free/govt supported childcare only those that are govt run childcare" I have no problems with that. I would also expect said childcare to spend more time making sure My Timmy doesn't poke out Her Sharon's eyes by over enthusiastic playdough wielding than on deep philosophical/political education.
pollymel
Dec. 14th, 2005 04:43 am (UTC)
Re: Speaking as an American...
Also, hey! I am a cold impersonal govt agency peon, and that doesn't make me a bad person. I think.
chandri
Dec. 14th, 2005 05:16 am (UTC)
Re: Speaking as an American...
I'm inclined to agree, as I'm pretty directly well-acquainted with the standard of govt-run childcare, through my Mum being a Ministry officer and all. I'm pretty sure our idea of and relationship with "government agency" is different from Americans'.
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