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Jan. 23rd, 2003

Wrote a new song. Doot, doot. :)

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wrin
Jan. 23rd, 2003 04:17 pm (UTC)
all I can hear is nose-singing whispering into the mic and very loud guitar.
dianahobart
Jan. 23rd, 2003 06:45 pm (UTC)
Oh! Can you speak up? All I can hear is a jealous judgment.
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dianahobart
Jan. 23rd, 2003 06:49 pm (UTC)
P.S. The adjectival form of nose is nasal. Just in case you wanted not to sound like a moron when insulting others.
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chandri
Jan. 23rd, 2003 09:50 pm (UTC)
Re:
If she were to plug her nose, (like, cough, a voice teacher would teach her to do, or train her to do,) she would sound six thousand times better. Like, not like LeAnn Rimes, post breast-implants.

So desperately tempted to say "fuck you, Nicole". That bitchy little comment was also totally uncalled-for, not to mention offensive, and just downright mean. But instead, let me "constructively" criticize your criticism.

Criticism can hardly be called "constructive" when said criticism contains a (very) thinly-veiled insult. "Constructive criticism" would have been something like "Gee, your singing sounds a little nasal. Maybe block your nose?" If that was more along the lines of what you intended to say, you *really* need to work on your delivery.

Finally, if the recording sounds bad, well; I hardly have professional recording equipment. I do my recordings with a headphone mic and MusicMatch - but as a matter of fact it's one of the better recordings I've made. If it sounds like crap, I'd blame your speakers, or your equalizer settings. Which also might account for whatever inferences you're making about my singing-voice.
wrin
Jan. 24th, 2003 04:13 pm (UTC)
1. Maybe make an appointment at a studio, or use a second microphone. The one you're using quite obviously has difficulty picking up your voice and the guitar at the same time.

2. I'm not sure if it's a problem with your projection or you singing through your nose improperly or what, but you are wasting a LOT of air, that is not heard by the ear but is picked up by the mic, and sounds like whispering. Singing louder tends to help, as there's less chance to WASTE air.

Try blocking your nose with your soft palate when you sing, because your nasal cavity has a nasty habit of changing sounds if you're not careful or well-trained for it.

And look into voice lessons -- Yeah, sure, maybe some BAD voice teachers will try to make you sound like them so they can relive their former glory or something, but most competent teachers will give you pointers and teach you how to take CARE of your voice, since it IS a muscle, and exercising it DOES tend to make it more dextrous.
chandri
Jan. 24th, 2003 05:15 pm (UTC)
Re:
I have no interest in singing professionally - I sing because I like it. Wasting several thousand dollars I don't have on a studio would be exactly that, a waste, since I also have no interest in twiddling my equipment to meet *your* exacting standards.

And... now my voice is "whispery"? Sorry; I'm confused. First I was nasal, now I'm "whispery"? Can't be both.

Given that you've given no evidence to the contrary, I'm forced to wonder if *you* even know how to sing properly, or whether you sing at all. Because although I'm not a professional, I have performed, and have *been* performing, since I was about two. So I would appreciate it if you would stop implying that I don't know *how* to sing.

As for "wasting air" - you seem to think that I'm trying for a style and failing - you also seem to be disregarding the fact that there are *different* styles of singing. Different, as in, "more than one". As in "not singing in precisely the style that fits your personal preferences doesn't automatically make the style crap". I *do* know what I'm doing, and I'm *not* untrained. How I sing is how I mean to sing. And if you don't like it, don't listen. It's not as if you paid twenty dollars for a CD or anything.

Then again, maybe it's just that you don't know how to listen. Or tune your equalizer.
wrin
Jan. 25th, 2003 12:23 pm (UTC)
Re:
*yawn*
chandri
Jan. 25th, 2003 04:49 pm (UTC)
*raises an eyebrow*
Ooh. Wow. o.O
Anyway.

I've realized that I keep pointing out that I'm not a professional, and then going on to defend my professionalism. Which speaks, I suppose, mostly to my inability to shut up.

No; I'm not a professional. I never plan nor really want to make money singing. However, I have devoted seventeen years of my life to the performing arts, and therefore I'm offended by the implication that I'm either too lazy or incompetent to do something properly because I don't know how, or too deluded with my own perfection of technique that I don't feel that there's anything on which to improve.

Well, I don't think I need to improve. But simply because I don't care about being perfect. Because I'm not a professional. Because the reason I sing is the same reason I write - because I want to. Because I think the things I write/sing about are important. *Not* because I'm trying to meet some previously-set industry standard, or impress anyone.

That aside, Nicole, it occurs to me and bothers me that while you seem to have had endless opinions and criticism about the *singing*, you said nothing about the *song*. Which was kind of the whole point, or at least, was *my* point in writing it.

"The story is sacred." Ever heard that? Well, *that*'s why I sing. Maybe it doesn't make any sense to you, but it makes endless sense to me. I pity anyone who can listen to music and *only* hear the technicalities. Maybe the way we listen to music just speaks to the kinds of people we are - though on that subject, I will make no judgements, nor front any theories, it being none of my damned business, anyway.
wrin
Jan. 25th, 2003 05:05 pm (UTC)
Re: *raises an eyebrow*
Oh, I like it. I love the tune. I just wish I could make out the GOD DAMNED WORDS.
chandri
Jan. 25th, 2003 08:08 pm (UTC)
Re: *raises an eyebrow*
Well, no one else seems to be having that problem. Seriously, check your equalizer.
wrin
Jan. 26th, 2003 09:35 am (UTC)
Re: *raises an eyebrow*
I seriously think it's because the headphone mic loves to pick up any extra turbulence in front of peoples' mouths.
dianahobart
Jan. 25th, 2003 08:29 pm (UTC)
*takes a deep breath*
FUCK YOU, BITCH!!!
chandri
Jan. 23rd, 2003 09:52 pm (UTC)
Re:
If she were to plug her nose, (like, cough, a voice teacher would teach her to do, or train her to do,) she would sound six thousand times better.

I've been singing almost since I could speak, attributable to my dad. I've *had* professional voice lessons, unfortunately. I also simply do not *have* a deep voice, nor will I ever. I have a fairly high-pitched speaking voice, and a mid-range singing voice - but if I *were* indeed "singing through my nose" to the degree you claim, I would sing quite differently from the way I do - I would also be so quiet as to be incomprehensible.

All that regardless, the Beatles were famous for "nose-singing", as you call it. It's a technique in and of itself, used to increase power and clarity, not a fault.

And I do sincerely hope you're not going to disparage the Beatles.
catsclaws
Jan. 23rd, 2003 10:01 pm (UTC)
When performing in a musical you must sing through your nose and throat so as to project to the farthest of the audience members. Especially if there are no microphones. It's quite useful.
dianahobart
Jan. 24th, 2003 12:25 am (UTC)
Let's hear your stuff, Wrin. Or do you create anything? We're interested.

But considering how you judge musicians by their boobs, maybe your opinion is moot. So, from what song to what song did you say her (LR) voice suddenly degraded?

(BTW, there is no "like, not like" syllogism. But that's just for you, since we're all a group that is open to helpful criticism.)
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